opensummer | She will go down with her ship, like a good captain

I started The Expanse a while back but have been mainlining it today and it is basically made for me as a person and that's delightful.

There's space!creole! Political tensions! Morally ambiguous characters who are better than they seem! Crew as family! Chrisjen MF Avasarala! Unlike Firefly, it's actually diverse! They! Actually! Consider! How! Societies! Would! Develop! IN SPACE!

Disclaimer before I start complaining: I'm on S01E08 at the time of writing this. Two gripes, so far-

I'd like it if the ladies had an expanded role. So far we've got three storylines - the cop on Ceres, the survivors of the Cant, and the UN officials on Earth. The cop's storyline has two types of wimmen, bosses and hookers and a potentially dead girl, and that's... frustrating. The survivors of the Cant has Naomi Nagata who is Badass Excellent but of the original five survivors we get one lady and a dead girl so Holden can have manpain.The UN officials on Earth? We get Chrisjen who is again Badass Excellent but she is the only woman in the upper echelons of the UN. There's ladies around in the background but no named female characters besides Chrisjen.
There's sound in space and I should really know to expect better by now but come on. In space no one can hear you scream is a meme for a reason.

Finally, I got a hold of all of the expanse novels and they're going on my to read list but I'm not going to start them until I get through the third season. Tell if they're any good?

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Hi! I am very new to your ~space! I think I came by just browsing other people's reading pages, for reference. And my introduction will just be:YES EXPANSE SQUEE!

In my house we just say "do you wanna watch space tonight?" and spend a lot of time gleefully chanting "space! space!" at the screen.

There will be more women, of different professions! I don't think it, at any point, develops super *deep* characterizations of anyone— it's not really what the show is for, I think, so in that sense the women don't get the intense complexity you might want? But Christen continues to have stupendous, stupendous gravel-voiced lines (GOD I love her), and there's...it's good, even if increasingly haywire in terms of plot.

that is the best possible ritual for space tv and I hope you do it to the rhythm of one of us

You're right it's not a show about character development and helps a lot, especially once we get Bobbie and Camina Drummer thrown into the mix, and Anna in the third season. Christen might be the best character on the show and I love her so much, especially when she drops an f-bomb into the middle of a hearing

She will go down with her ship, like a good captain

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space! space! space!